[neilania]

Thanks for your reply,
I don't want to write the id in a forum as it may be liable to all sorts of negative attention.
il substitute asterisks eh? as follows

this is how it was entered and is on the profile *********_*****

this is how it is when seen on messenger. *********_***** ******

there is an extra word one space apart from the origional id
it does not show up in the profile.
is that any more enlightening?
Cheers Neil