Groove

[rustedtight]

quote:Have a look at Magi (www.endeavors.com) before you fall too much in love.

Yeah, Chaspleen, I trend to agree. Magi certainly seems more stable, the download is simple and installation is trouble free.
Is it of interest to members?? hmmm, dunno, AOL it aint, MSN it aint.
Damn, guess its dead in the water then......<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

[chaspleen]

quote:

Yeah, Chaspleen, I trend to agree. Magi certainly seems more stable, the download is simple and installation is trouble free.
Is it of interest to members?? hmmm, dunno, AOL it aint, MSN it aint.
Damn, guess its dead in the water then......<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

[chaspleen]

Ooops. Sorry about above blan response.

I hope you're kidding. Magi has lots more going for it than IM. File access control for one, which Groove doesn't have in its free version. Also you can transfer any type of file. And you can print (not possible in Groove), email or fax files from Magi. Also can access with a WAP phone. The enterprise version looks very awesome, although that's not free.

[Jeff]

OK, I took the bait and downloaded Magi, but was very disappointed. Chaspleen, do you work for Endeaver or something? Because your view is definately slanted.

First of all, a visit to the Endeavor web site was an exercise in patience. It was not clear where I could find Magi to download. I had to hunt for it.

Ok, I make it over that hurdle and began the installation. One of the dialog boxes in the setup program has a blatant typographic error! Didn't do much to instill confidence in the product. It felt very amateurish.

But the icing on the cake came when I tried to run the program. I double-clicked the Magi icon in anticipation of God-knows-what... my monitor flickered once... and my computer restarted!

I'm not running on a lame PC either. It's a 400 Mhz P2 with 128 MB RAM running Windows ME (which is supposed to meet the requirements for Magi).

Now I'm pissed off that I wasted time wandering around their web site, downloading an app that serves no purpose other than to automatically reboot my pc. Stable? Hah!!!!!! <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

One final note: This thread was meant to cover Groove. If you want to discuss Magi, you're welcome to, but let's start a new topic for that.

Jeff Hester
BigBlueBall.com

[chaspleen]

Sorry Jeff. First I heard of that kind of problem intalling Magi. (Maybe Groove ruined your machine for Magi <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>)

Certainly, judging by the Groove forums, that software is far from trouble-free, including on installation.

In any case, you're correct that this is a Groove forum and I won't intrude re Magi. (And, no, I don't work for them. Just a satisfied user.)

In that respect, how is Groove working for you?

[Jeff]

quote:
Sorry Jeff. First I heard of that kind of problem intalling Magi. (Maybe Groove ruined your machine for Magi)

LOL - Yeah, I'm sure.

quote:Certainly, judging by the Groove forums, that software is far from trouble-free, including on installation.

You are correct, Groove is not perfect. But my personal experience with Groove has been much more positive. Groove comes across as an application that a lot of time and money has gone into, while Magi comes across more like something some guy has been working on in his spare time.

quote:In any case, you're correct that this is a Groove forum and I won't intrude re Magi. (And, no, I don't work for them. Just a satisfied user.)

No problem! Just hit the "New Topic" button and start a topic on Maji! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

quote:In that respect, how is Groove working for you?

Good question! I haven't used it for a real-world project, but in the testing I've done all the features worked as expected with one exception. When you send a message to another Groove user, you get a status popup near the system tray. It still shows messages in the queue from when I originally sent them, even though I know the other person received them.

Also, Groove seems to be a memory hog. It has a "quiet" mode where it sits in the system tray, but I choose to close it down except when I really want to run it.

It has a very clean user interface, and a helluva lot of features.

Jeff Hester
BigBlueBall.com

[chaspleen]

Jeff,

Looks like you have company on the Groove side - I guess the $150 mill thrown at Groove doesn't make it work for everybody (and patrick is not alone). From the Groove forums today (link below):

From: patrick.costello

Posted: Nov/27/2001 3:39 PM
Too bad, Groove is a great app... but it just keeps crashing on my machine.

Perhaps it's a result of Windows Me - what a dog!

Anyway... I've reinstalled, uninstalled, created new identities too many times.

I give up.


http://www.groove.net/support/forums...&threadid=3676

[rustedtight]

quote:Too bad, Groove is a great app... but it just keeps crashing on my machine.

Surely thats an oxymoron.


I've seen enough.... personal, here and on forums to conclude that both pruducts are not yet mature enough to be 'in the wild'
Its a damn good thing they are free. Now back to cleaning up the mess on my system left by these 'great' apps.