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Old 03-27-2004, 12:31 AM
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They did have a little do's and dont's thingy. And no, I'm not in High School. I will leave what grade I am in a secret.

They're also restricting me from the mobile lab they have now. Bunches of dell laptops running on a WiFi. I asked if I could use one, and my teacher said I was "a hazard to the school's security". What security?

The machines are totally open. No restrictions on them. DoS is available, network settings are available... I sit at my desk and watch the other kids on their mobile laptops and the teacher looks at the screen(s) in amazement. Wow, a powerpoint presentation. Everyone is so entranced by the damned laptops. BIG DEAL.

I swear to god, I ask if I can have a job as their network security for a nice sum of money. My assistant princapal wouldn't even listen to why I did the command.

My school system needs some serious changes.
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Old 03-27-2004, 12:33 AM
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What happened was, our teacher went out of the classroom. I went to print a document out that I needed for a project (was on the net). And then she came back and freaked out because someone had probably told her that DoS was really ... the black screen of death

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I still think this story sounds fishy. How would they know that you ran netstat? It's not like he ran netsend and everyone got a message (an obvious tip-off).
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Old 03-27-2004, 12:52 AM
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DoS is bad, DOS is good. =)

DoS = Denial of Service attack
DOS = Disk operating system, where very little of the OS is actually loaded into memory.

I remember how my VB teacher was amazed when I made 'Network Client-Server-Client IM system', and how she told me that I wasn't allowed to use it after she graded it because it was a security risk.

I can't see how a Connection on port 4000 over the INTERNAL network could possibly compromise the entire network, I'm not even accessing the WAN.

We don't have access to NT-DOS (WinNT doesn't come with DOS, NT-DOS actually processes everything through Windows NT, unlike the Win9X systems did), but we have RUN, and that's all I need to really do anything. And we have Visual Studio, so I could use FileSystemObject to interact with the local file system. The point is that the network is generally not protected from more advanced users and all they can do is punish anyone that does something 'They don't like'.

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Old 03-27-2004, 10:21 AM
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DDoS = Distributed Denial of Service Attack

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I get them messed up.
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I got suspended for 1 day for pinging my own IP, getting no response, then using netstat to see the school computer's network status.

Overkill.
I'm still trying to figure out how to use netstat. Like all I know is I go to dos and type netstat and it gives me a list of things. Ha ha ha that's all I know. One of my friends showed me long a go you can see someone's IP address using netstat while on MSN messenger. But I don't remember how he did it. Now when I do it I see my IP address or a bunch of zero's with dots in between ha ha.
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I'm still trying to figure out how to use netstat. Like all I know is I go to dos and type netstat and it gives me a list of things. Ha ha ha that's all I know. One of my friends showed me long a go you can see someone's IP address using netstat while on MSN messenger. But I don't remember how he did it. Now when I do it I see my IP address or a bunch of zero's with dots in between ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha.... and how is this relevant to this thread? Please don't post things that nobody cares about and spend a few minutes reading MS-DOS netstat command help.
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i agree with detn8r.

they admin should have made a half assed job of it and not allowed it. i think he should have at least been given a warning (this is if he didn't sign anything in the first place) before being suspended for a day. Im not sure what its like in the US but if that happens here, it stays on our record.



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*shrug* stupid people rule the world.

In high school, a friend of mine got suspended for a day for playing solitaire. What do you expect, ne?

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They uninstalled solitare on our computers. I always finish the lesson in computer class before everyone else and I have nothing to do. I was just playing solitare too.
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*shrug* stupid people rule the world.

In high school, a friend of mine got suspended for a day for playing solitaire. What do you expect, ne?
Schools tend to be strict for everything, i myself got suspended for not taking "proof of address." Three days, just for that.....Seems wrong, yet it happens. So whatever they see as wrong, like netstat, we must oblige and avoid (or not get caught).

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