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Old 01-21-2007, 11:02 PM
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I'm impressed with what you guys are doing. Especially noteworthy is the collaboration with Craig @YMLite. Please keep it up. I've pointed a few YTunnel users to it and one has purchased the pro version already. I'm waiting to get her feedback.
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:58 AM
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Well, if you or her has any questions, please ask them here, or on the YTK forums. =)
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:51 PM
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Thanks mfenech.

Craig is a good guy if you get to know him, and most just don't give him a chance. Him and I, over the few years, used to not get along at all but that was before we really knew each other. He looks out for me and I look out for him, much better to make friends than enemies.

As far as YTK Lite/Pro... we're constantly developing them to make them better, more well-rounded and true powerhouse chat enhancements. We take pride in getting things right and don't slack when it comes to this type of work, in the end everybody is happy and we're happy because everybody is satisfied (or at least almost everybody). Some of our past critics have even stated how much they're liking beta build 260 so it looks like it was quite a successful release, only to be dwarfed by the next build to come out (we've been working hard on it and it'll be amazing). Thanks for the kind words.

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Old 01-27-2007, 08:12 PM
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lol There's only one problem with it. You have mentioned few times in this thread "Y!Tunnel" so....why don't people just go there & use it? it's been around for years, Best add on to yim made today. As well as a free pre-trial version coming up in the next month. All this program is, is another version of tunnel that claims to be "unbootable". For one thing don't be miss-lead by something calming to be unbootable, Because for one thing "nothing" is "unbootable" lol I have tried YTK Pro & yea it's ok but in no way does it have the easy to use features like Y tunnel. I'm not saying to anyone that its better or worse. What I'm saying is why buy something that hasn't been around but for few months & there saying it's unbootable lol Y tunnel in no way has ever clammed to be unbootable & never will. Yea there are a lot of features that help but don't be dumb about this new program its not all that.

This is just my opinion after trying YTK Pro out for few weeks now & in the end I'll take Tunnel over it any day. But hey maby after sometime has passed the program will develop. It takes years to make a program stick out from the rest.
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:38 PM
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Here is my opinion on some of the things you said wilber...

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why don't people just go there & use it? it's been around for years, Best add on to yim made today.
That's debatable. It all depends on the user's preference.

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As well as a free pre-trial version coming up in the next month.
Free trial version Vs. completely feature-rich free version. I wonder which is better?

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All this program is, is another version of tunnel that claims to be "unbootable".
Facts state otherwise.

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Because for one thing "nothing" is "unbootable"
YTK Pro in Gawd Mode is.

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I have tried YTK Pro & yea it's ok but in no way does it have the easy to use features like Y tunnel
Considering how YTK is only 2 months old...

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What I'm saying is why buy something that hasn't been around but for few months & there saying it's unbootable
Because it is actually unbootable in Gawd Mode?

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Y tunnel in no way has ever clammed to be unbootable & never will.
Because it won't ever be unbootable like YTK?

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Yea there are a lot of features that help but don't be dumb about this new program its not all that.
There are a lot of ex-Y!Tunnel users who would say otherwise.

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It takes years to make a program stick out from the rest.
I predict months, not years.

This is just some criticism/comments/opinions about your statements. No offense to you or your statements/opinions as you are entitled to them. =)

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Old 01-27-2007, 09:04 PM
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For one thing don't be miss-lead by something calming to be unbootable, Because for one thing "nothing" is "unbootable"
Right now those guys can say it's unbootable... because it is at this time! Have you purchased a license for YTK Pro?
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:41 AM
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All this program is, is another version of tunnel that claims to be "unbootable".
Very similar to Y!Tunnel, yes. There are, however, differences not to mention that YTK Pro was built from the ground-up to be heavily security-centric. It's also programmed in a different language (more productive) than Y!Tunnel is. The claim of 100% unbootability is true, think what you want.

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I have tried YTK Pro & yea it's ok but in no way does it have the easy to use features like Y tunnel.
There's plenty of "easy to use" features in YTK Pro. The added flexibility in YTK Pro might make it appear to be more complex to work with but we've got 80 year old customers that manage just fine (I'm not kidding).

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What I'm saying is why buy something that hasn't been around but for few months
You're wrong. YTK Pro HAS "been around" since April of 2005 when it began development. It wasn't released until it had just as many features (and many of it's own) as Y!TunnelPro 2.0/2.5. Just because a program was "playing catch up" for that time span and not available to the public in it's extremely early development stages doesn't mean it hasn't existed. You don't create a program like YTK Pro in only a couple of months, LoL. It was being beta tested since the summer of 2006 and was released on November 12th officially.

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there saying it's unbootable lol
? This is so hard to believe for you? Look up inverse simplex communication (when in Gawd Mode) and we'll see just how "bootable" YTK Pro is.

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Y tunnel in no way has ever clammed to be unbootable & never will.
Y!Tunnel isn't "unbootable" because

A) It doesn't have Gawd Mode

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B) Over the many years that it's been available to the public it's had many flaws that booters have been able to successfully exploit. YTK Pro doesn't contain these same kind of flaws... proof is in why you don't ever see booters with YTK Pro "boot" options to specifically exploit a flaw in the program. The one booter that I did find with a YTK Pro boot option doesn't even work as advertised, it's only there to make it appear to be more powerful than it really is.

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Yea there are a lot of features that help but don't be dumb about this new program its not all that.
I co-developed this program and it IS "all that", it's one of a kind and each new build we release proves it's worth more and more, there's no back stepping. YTK Pro has introduced several chat innovations and will only acquire more and more each new build that is available (wait until you see the next build).

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But hey maby after sometime has passed the program will develop. It takes years to make a program stick out from the rest
YTK Pro is already sticking out from "the rest" and it's only taken a couple months to accomplish. This program is extremely developed, it's over 60,000 lines of source code, that isn't developed enough?

As far as stability is concerned YTK Lite/Pro is hands down a winner, we've had 0 YTK crash reports from our members running it since we released the first build back in November (beta build 235). Not to cut Y!Tunnel down but you won't find that kind of track record with Y!Tunnel in operation, there's been several crash reports reported by board members and they've had to be looked into separately. I have been running Y!Tunnel since 2002 when I purchased Y!TunnelPro, I'm aware of it's PROs and CONs and stability isn't it's strongest point. Others and myself believe that it's not even the added flexibility and increased protection you get from YTK Pro that puts it on top in it's submarket, we believe the stability alone is what places it there.

Don't degrade a program developed and maintained aggressively with a bright future ahead, you're not giving it or the developers (myself included here) enough credit.

Have a good one...

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Old 02-07-2007, 12:19 PM
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Just to give you a guys the heads up, a new build of YTK Pro is coming real soon, and you can read about it here.

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Old 02-09-2007, 08:32 AM
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Right now those guys can say it's unbootable... because it is at this time! Have you purchased a license for YTK Pro?
No i tried the free version when it first came out. Wasn't anything that grabbed me out of my chair. Have you guys added the hidden emoticons? That would be a plus. Far as my thoughts on it, I should have made clear that it isn't all bad, Just that nothing really stood out in this program, Yes i agree the protection is great to have is it unbootable no. lol Is Tunnel unbootable no. However with the competition out there to date, Its a tough one to sell. lol Torseq Tech is on the right path good sale's skill z. I'll keep updated maby you guys will come out with a new one i'll test it out.

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Oh Question when you guys update do you update the free version as well?
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